The Fantastic Four are almost in the MCU! So let's take a moment to look back at maybe the worst Marvel movie of all time, Fant4Stic, and comparing it to the best Fantastic Four movie--The Incredibles. IN this video we break down one scene that shows why one movie worked, and the other didn't.

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Written by Sailesh Gudipati
Hosted by Ryan Arey (  / ryanarey  )
Edited by Harriet Lengel-Enright

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Both movies feature a family--of sorts--of superheroes, one with super-strength, one with super stretchiness, another with the ability to turn invisible and create force fields, and one that’s super hot-headed.

These families butt heads a lot of the time as families often do [clip of Bob and Helen fighting].

One of the main characters gets jealous when another person starts flirting with their love interest
And of course, the teams have to put aside their differences and come together at the end to take down the big bad.

It’s not surprising that these franchises are so similar, because The Incredibles was partly based on the Fantastic Four. But then why did it take a Pixar movie to get the Fantastic Four right? Where did the Incredibles succeed that Fant 4 Stic gets so wrong?

Let’s look at two scenes, that are similar we can use them as a point of comparison: the final battles.

The Incredibles is a breathtaking action scene, the culmination of the family drama we’ve seen throughout the film.

Just to recap, the Parr family journeys to a remote Island to save Bob from the clutches of Syndrome. Syndrome plans to spread his technology worldwide so that everyone is special and no one feels left out like he once did as a kid.We argued the merits of his exceptionalism vs collectivism in another video [thumbnail of syndrome was right]

His plan to introduce the world to this technology is by unleashing a robot that he created and defeating it, saving the city and becoming a hero. Unfortunately, the technology malfunctions and he gets knocked out.

The robot runs rampant and the Parr family has to stop it. The stakes are clear. The robot is threatening the city, but most importantly the family we’ve come to love. [b roll kids under attack] The danger is underscored by Bob’s speech at the start of the battle [I’m not strong enough to lose you]

The movie establishes the Parrs as a relatable family. The kids bicker, [clip] and the parents the dad works a dead end job and sneaks off to talk about the good old days. In the scenes leading up to the fight, the normal family dynamic is reinforced when Bob and Helen fight about how to get to the fight. [highway exit ramp fight]

All of this makes them more relatable to the audience. But also this makes the final battle even more rewarding when they’re finally able to work together and direct their hostility where it belongs: against an evil city destroying robot.

The kids are initially tucked away, but after the winnebago is destroyed, they have no place to hide. Everyone is in this together.

This scene symbolizes family and togetherness and is the culmination of all of the family drama we’ve seen thus far.

Each member has a conventional role in the family: the dad is the rock of the family and is strong, the mom is flexible and does many things at once, the teenage girl feels invisible, and the young boys are bursting with energy.

Dash and violet fight all the time but one of the first scenes we see in the final battle is Violet saving Dash and her brother’s concern for her

Mrs. Incredible saves her kids and she tells them [“stay here okay?”]. This aligns with what we saw from her character the rest of the movie where she always prioritizes protecting her kids [clip of them falling out of the plane]

You see the father and son playing catch in this scene [clip where Mr. Incredible throws the remote to Dash] This is a great payoff for the audience because we see Bob supporting Dash using his powers earlier in the movie and it's a great representation of how the father and son duo bond over these superpowers.

There’s even a shot of the family fighting over a remote [clip] which is a classic trope [remote clip from amazing world of gumball]

The Incredibles uses superpowers as a vessel to tell a story about a family. It’s much more focused on the Family Drama aspect than the superhero aspect.

As you can see, it also builds really well off of what we’ve been shown up until this point. It feels satisfying as a conclusion because of this.