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09:28 - The crossover of gaming and healthcare simulation
15:15 - Alternative realities in healthcare & lessons from gaming
17:32 - The adoption curve of AR/VR in healthcare simulation
18:57 - The 5 biggest challenges facing AR/VR in healthcare simulation
22:40 - The future of healthcare simulation
25:02 - Old school institutions that don't adapt to AR/VR
26:40 - Should institutions purchase devices for students or should students buy them?
28:20 - Predicting the future of healthcare simulation
30:46 - We can do 80-90% of your sim-lab
33:00 - Virtual sims can train staff on the simulation, helping staff turnover
35:19 - Are institutions removing beds to make room for VR?
36:47 - Deb pushes back. What about the student debrief?
40:06 - Rule of thumb for space and cost savings in alternative reality simulators
44:45 - Devin asks the hosts: What do we do about staffing shortages?
47:18 - Devin cites study on ROI for VR vs Mannikin simulation (citation: https://journals.lww.com/cinjournal/C...)
48:43 - Where do you see the future of healthcare simulation 3/5/10 years from now?
57:25 - ChatGPT/Bing integration gives THE ANSWER
1:02:10 - Step back and think about what we just saw



In this episode of The Sim Cafe Podcast, Hosts Deb Tauber and Jerrod Jeffries interview Tess McKinney and Devin Marble to discuss the intersection of AR and VR in healthcare simulation. The conversation covers the challenges facing the adoption of virtual and augmented reality in healthcare, including issues of cost and hardware. The hosts also explore the potential benefits of gamification in simulation, such as improved engagement, motivation, decision-making skills, teamwork, and collaboration. They examine the ways in which simulation can help improve patient safety and student outcomes and discuss the challenges of validating the usage of these tools. The hosts consider the future of healthcare simulation and its coexistence with high-fidelity simulators, with a particular focus on the potential for mixed reality, virtual reality, and augmented overlays to enhance healthcare simulation. Finally, the hosts and guests discuss the implications of ChatGPT in healthcare for the professionals and patients in this new world of artificial intelligence (AI); ending with examples of its use and integration with Microsoft’s Bing search engine.


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