What you just heard was just part of the text chain between a 13-year-old and 60-year-old Charles Lawrence. As he scrolled on Grindr for some grind, he found a 13-year-old to entice, but what he didn’t know was that the 13-year-old was a sting by former Dateline NBC Reporter Chris Hansen. In this video, we’re taking you through the interrogation of Charles Lawrence, his disturbing chat, and his absurd excuse.

Charles. E. Lawrence III was a successful accountant in New York and a Commercial Real Estate Broker when he started conversing online with a 13-year-old boy on a social media app called Grindr. He talked about how he could “teach him some things” and planned a meeting on October 3rd, 2015. As he stood on the gateway of the 13-year-old boy’s house, out came Chris Hansen and a bunch of police officers, cause that’s how these sting operations work.

Lawrence was taken to the interrogation room just to see what kind of excuse he could whip out for being at a 13-year-old boy’s doorstep and what he was planning to do.