Darren Chester, Clare O'Neil, Hana Assafiri, Susan Alberti and Tom Elliott discuss gender-exclusivity, small businesses, and the Murugappan family.
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Panellists: Darren Chester, Minister for Veterans' Affairs and Defence Personnel; Clare O'Neil, Shadow Minister for Senior Australians and Aged Care Services; Hana Assafiri, Businesswoman and social change agent; Susan Alberti, Businesswoman and philanthropist; and Tom Elliott, Radio broadcaster. With guest host David Speers.

This episode was broadcast on Thursday June 17, 2021.

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