John Ortberg returns to the podcast and breaks down the divide between leadership and spiritual formation.

John and Carey discuss the old adage, "If you're not a leader, you're a loser." Is it true?

Plus, John offers his reflections on Willow Creek and Church moral failures. 

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Chapters
0:00:00 - Academics v. Leadership
0:00:47 - Welcome to the podcast
0:02:19 - Leadership and Spiritual Formation Divide
0:14:35 - Leadership and Friendship
0:21:01 - Lessons from Willow Creek in the 90s
0:34:90 - Spiritual Formation and Leadership at Willow Creek
0:43:42 - What to do when moral failure hits your church
0:57:20 - If you're not a leader, you're a loser
1:02:00 - Growing in Organizational Leadership Skills
1:11:30 - Growing Your Spiritual Formation