This week's guest was Michael Trail, the co-founder of Macquarie Group's private equity business, Macquarie Direct Investment, and was also the founding CEO of Social Ventures Australia (SVA).

Currently Michael spends his time as Executive Director at For Purpose Investment Partners, is the Chair of the Paul Ramsey Foundation and is a director at multiple organisations such as Sunsuper, MH Carnegie & Co, and Australian Philanthropic Services.

Michael details his enormous career across finance, social impact and in non-profit organisations in his book 'Jumping Ship: From the World of Corporate Australia to the Heart of Social Investment'.

You can get the book here: https://www.amazon.com.au/Jumping-Shi...


1:34 Michaels motivations

6:46 Is business and impact exclusive

17:54 Would Michael have gone into non-profit earlier if he knew about it?

25:15 Where is the world heading in regard to finance and social impact

31:30 What stops people from ‘jumping ship’?

36:42 Influential books and people in Michael’s life

41:33 Michael’s advice for university students