Over recent years, the use of psychedelics, specifically psilocybin and LSD, has become more mainstream in discussions of mental health. While it is still premature to say anything definitive, there have been more studies, research, and experimentation done. But the discussion has not stopped at mental health—some in the business community have been touting the benefits of psychedelics in leadership development. Paul F. Austin of Third Wave (https://thethirdwave.co/)  and Deepak Chopra chatted about a wide-ranging slate of topics. They covered everything from the benefits of microdosing for our brain health to how the best leadership actually mirrors what's happening in nature.