After quietly absorbing verbal abuse from Gayton McKenzie during a torrid first morning at BNC#5, DA Federal Chair Helen Zille had her opportunity to respond during the Nightcap session. In this, Part 1 of that discussion with BizNews founder Alec Hogg, Zille exacts her revenge. Brilliantly. We witness a master of her craft at her very best, displaying trademark courage, superb storytelling skills and political nous. Zille also shared the back story of what is happening within SA's newfound political coalitions; and unpacked the DA's way ahead as the country approaches the watershed 2024 National Elections. Compelling, captivating and enlightening. A must-listen.

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00:00 Introduction
01:24 Helen Zille's response to Gayton McKenzie's BNC#5 presentation
05:25 On Gayton McKenzie and Herman Mashaba's refusal to enter into a coalition with the DA if Zille is involved
09:22 On McKenzie's constituency
10:35 On who is keeping the ANC in power
17:30 On Herman Mashaba's politics
20:57 On being the lightning rod
21:27 On SA's coalition politics and the best and worst-case scenarios for the 2024 National Elections
33:09 Why the DA's template of successful governance has not been picked up by the majority of South Africans
34:33 The major failing of liberals
35:53 The importance of good governance and examples of the DA getting it right
39:59 Cape Town as a tangible product of the DA's successful governance
40:43 Whether South Africa is at a tipping point which could potentially see dramatic change in 2024