Plenty of comic book villains have tragic backstories, but the Joker has never been given a definitive origin. Todd Phillips’ film Joker intentionally leaves things ambiguous at the end, with many theorizing that the last scene suggests that the entire film was in Arthur Fleck’s head.

Phillips has explained that there isn’t one definitive explanation of the film, although he enjoys the different ways people have analyzed it. Maybe the Arthur Fleck Joker will just be an inspiration on Batman’s future nemesis, or maybe he’s been in the hospital the whole time.

Let’s take a look at the explanation that Joker director Todd Phillips has given to that last crucial scene.

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