Dr. Steven Herrine is the chair of medical education and professor of medicine here at SKMC at Jefferson and a practicing hepatologist and gastroenterologist. He grew up in NYC and studied math and history at Oberlin College, after which he spent a few years as a chef, and then went to Jefferson medical school, Penn, for IM residency and Jefferson for GI/hepatology, where he has stayed since. He has won multiple awards for teaching, including IM residency teacher of the year, which makes sense because he now runs medical education as the chair here at SKMC. This is a scary interview for me because if I say anything bad, Dr. Herrine can of course, kick me right out of medical school with only a couple months left.

Sep 25th
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0:00 - Intro
1:17 - From Being a Chef to Doing Medicine
5:39 - What Is Hepatology?
6:12 - Why Hepatology?
9:50 - What Was Fellowship Like?
10:48 - Choosing the Kind of Practice That You Want to Do
17:46 - Best Thing About Being a Hepatologist
20:29 - Worst Thing About Being a Hepatologist
22:07 - How to Get Into Dean/Chair Positions?
24:23 - An Average Week/Day Balancing Clinic and Dean Position
27:39 - Most Surprising/Unexpected Thing About Being a Dean
29:50 - Formalities and Processes for Changing Med School Curriculum
32:03 - Main Factors in Change
33:00 - LCME Guidelines on Curriculum
35:06 - Being the Dean of Medical Education
37:21 - Lessons Learned After Being in Medical Education for 20+ Years
39:52 - Social Science & Medicine
43:48 - Deciding on Online and On-Site Classes
47:28 - Medical Education Changing Over the Years
49:57 - Differences Between Successful and Unsuccessful Students
53:25 - Medical Education During COVID-19
57:56 - Future of Your Career
59:32 - If I Give You $100 Million, What Would You Do?
1:00:57 - Advice to People Entering Medicine
1:02:36 - What Advice Would You Give Your Med Student Self?
1:03:30 - Any Mistakes That You Made Throughout Your Career?
1:05:14 - Book Recommendations
1:08:28 - Closing Message for People Looking Into Hepatology
1:08:52 - Closing Message for People Going Into Medicine
1:10:03 - Tips for Making Great Graphics for Teaching
1:11:05 - Giving a Good Experience for Students at SKMC&Jefferson
1:13:55 - Closing Message
1:15:13 - Outro
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Resources
Being There by Jerzy Kosinski: https://a.co/d/3a8BVrZ
Undaunted Courage by Stephen E. Ambrose: https://a.co/d/cS4QFdF
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