Today on the flagship podcast of really old computers: Walt Mossberg, former Verge executive editor and longtime Wall Street Journal tech columnist, joins the show to discuss forty years of the Macintosh computer.

Ali Abdaal chats about his new book "Feel Good Productivity: How to Do More of What Matters To You" and why overthinking your productivity system might not be such a good idea.

David Pierce answers a question from the Vergecast Hotline about laptops.

00:00 - Intro
01:58 - The Mac at 40
37:23 - Ali Abdaal
1:03:48 - Vergecast Hotline

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