Michael Shermer is the Founding Publisher of Skeptic magazine, the host of the podcast The Michael Shermer Show, and a Presidential Fellow at Chapman University where he teaches Skepticism 101. For 18 years he was a monthly columnist for Scientific American. He writes a weekly Substack column. He is the author of New York Times bestsellers Why People Believe Weird Things and The Believing Brain, Why Darwin Matters, The Science of Good and Evil, The Moral Arc, Heavens on Earth, and Giving the Devil His Due: Reflections of a Scientific Humanist.

Jeremy Rys has a B.S. degree in Physics from Bridgewater State University and is a co-founder of APEC the Alternative Propulsion Engineering Conference an academic think tank of scientists, engineers, and inventors who explore the potentials of new physics and technologies including metamaterials, warp drives, ion thrusters, laser induced plasmas, invisibility cloaks, and other "Alien" technologies. - He is also an avid researcher of alternative history and the history behind classified programs and covert operations. He also enjoys researching scientific controversies and conspiracy theories.

Find Michael Shermer at: https://www.skeptic.com/ - https://michaelshermer.com/
Find Jeremy Rys at: https://www.altpropulsion.com/ - https://alienscientist.com/

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Jeremy Sources:
JFK --
   / @americasuntoldstories  
https://spartacus-educational.com/JFK...
https://www.jfkpaine.com/the-story/

RFK --
Autopsy Records
https://www.grunge.com/799514/tragic-...
"RFK Must Die" by Shane O'Sullivan
William Joseph Bryan Jr. - MKULTRA Hypnotist

9/11 --
The Armageddon Planners:
https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/...
Bremer on 9/11 giving the official theory:
   • Why L  Paul Bremer is a 9 11 Suspect SD  
The Pentagon Renovations:
https://digwithin.net/2012/01/01/a-sm...
"Another 19" by Kevin Ryan

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Timestamps:
00:00 UAPs and UFOs
08:34 Sponsors
12:25 Back to UAP
17:53 What evidence would you accept?
31:00 mRNA vaccines
38:25 RFK Jr on JRE
43:30 UAP wrap up
47:30 Kennedy assassinations
01:13:20 Getting people to stay quiet
01:32:20 MK Ultra and RFK assassination
01:38:40 MLK assassination
01:45:30 Conspiracy theories
01:48:20 9/11
02:22:38 Wrap up