Over a desktop model of the Manhattan Bridge, Robert Moses speaks from his Babylon office in this 1959 NBC interview.

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Moses talks with landscape architect Gilmore D. Clarke about urban planning, its implementation, and its political and financial dimensions. Readily acknowledging his reputation as an undiplomatic figure, Moses advances his notion that planners are people who make “pretty pictures” and propose plausible, attractive ideas, but they are not people who get things done. He discusses Jones Beach, the Lincoln Square slum-clearing project, and Manhattan public art installations. Further discussion centers on planning in other cities, particularly Flint, Michigan, and Los Angeles, as well as conflicts he has observed between reform-minded and status quo politicians and planning challenges experienced by western European societies.

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