In this interview, John sits down with Conservative MP Danny Kruger at the recent ARC conference to discuss his role in the rise of 'New Conservatism'.

Danny argues that over time the UK government has drifted away from the will of the people, eroding traditional values and focusing on global over domestic interests. This shift has provided an opportunity for conservatives to unite the country, appealing to basic traditional values people still possess, even in typically safe labor seats.

This change was most evident in the Brexit referendum of 2016 and the election of Boris Johnson in 2019. Kruger argues that this 'New Conservatism' is not a matter of changing values, but rather returning to the values that the public never gave up, such as family, national sovereignty, and patriotism.

Danny Kruger has represented the seat of Devizes since his election in 2019. He serves as the co-chair of the New Conservatives group, formed in the wake of the Brexit referendum. This group aims to realign British politics with the views, values, and interests of the British people.

Danny is also the author of several books, including: 'On Fraternity' (2007) and his latest publication, 'Covenant: The New Politics of Home, Neighborhood, and Nation' (2023).
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00:00 Intro
00:14 Introducing Danny Kruger
01:00 New Conservatism
4:40 Labour seats turning conservative
7:00 How elites betray the masses
11:30 Welfare vs Agency
16:25 To reengage the population, we must start listening
18:30 The best argument for Brexit
20:55 What is the cause of growing social dysfunction
20:30 How should migration look?
29:35 A good nationalism?
34:14 Rabbi Jonathan Sacks
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