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In the fall of 1963, the U.S. Navy conducted a series of test flights involving a C-130 and the U.S.S. Forrestal (CV-59). The project was a proof-of-concept that heavy transport aircraft could be operated from aircraft carriers as "Super CODs," support aircraft that could bring a large quantity of equipment aboard in support of the fleet or whatever else the situation might demand, including supporting U-2 spy planes operating off of other aircraft carriers. The chief test pilot for this series of flights was Jim Flatley, the son of legendary World War II carrier pilot Jimmy Flatley.

In this episode, Rear Admiral Flatley joins Ward to discuss the details of this unique and daring test operation.

Additionally, Rear Admiral Flatley would like to acknowledge  his two Flight Engineers, AD1 John Brennan and AD1 Al Sieve, who traded off as Flight Engineers during the Carrier Trials.