Dan and Corey begin the show by discussing evidence that we're still in a bear market. They
bring up equal-weight indexes fizzling out since December, the now "Magnificent Six" tech
stocks still dominating, and the possibility of a decadelong sideways market. (0:42)

After, contrarian trader Jason Shapiro of digital publishing company Crowded Market Report
joins the conversation and gives an overview of his trading style, his financial journey, and
how his strategy differs from many other traders'. While others are looking to ride the trend,
Jason explains that he's looking to "fade" it and find when the trend will turn. When speaking
specifically about putting the risk-reward ratio in his favor over time, he says the discounting
mechanism in the market is not price – it's participation. (18:39)

This segues into a discussion about how Jason's process works. He gives advice to individual
investors who are just starting out, including warning of the dangers of following trends and
"copy trading." He also details how trading goes against human nature. (30:43)

Then, Jason discusses automation in his field of work – when he uses it and when he ignores
its advice – and provides some examples of his strategy in action. He emphasizes that
market confirmation should always come first. (40:04)

Lastly, Jason explains why he's so adamant about sharing his approaches and techniques
with everyday investors that they can't find in traditional financial media. And you won't
want to miss Jason's answer to the final question... He shares what he believes is the real
secret behind making money in the markets. (49:17)